Will's Bret Blog

Will's Bret Blog

Postby William Benson » Nov 1st, '09, 15:15

My first attempt at a competitive Bretonnian list. Maybe when I'm slightly older, a tournament list.

Bretonnian Lord on Hyppogryff (Grail Vow, Lance, Shield, Gromril Great Helm, Mantle of Damsel Elena, Virtue of Knightly Temper.)

Paladin BSB (Virtue of Duty, Lance, Shield, Warhorse.)

Paladin (Cuirass of Fortune, Virtue of the Joust, Lance, Shield, Warhorse.)

Damsel (2 Dispell Scrolls.)

Damsel (Dispell Scroll, Chalice of Malfluer.)

8 KOTR (Full Command, Warbanner.) Non-BSB Paladin goes here.

8 KOTR (Full Command.) BSB Paladin goes here.

5 Yeomen

5 Yeomen

8 Grail Knights (Full Command, Banner of Chalons)

Trebuchet

16 Peasent Bowmen

16 Peasent Bowmen


Tactics are to hit them hard, and hit them fast. Its a shame that I couldn't fit in the Pegasus Knights but my Lord on Hyppogryff makes up for it. I will use the Lord as a terror bomb and flank/rear support.
The yeomen will take out warmachine crew (hopefully) and give flank support. The Damsels will hide the whole game as I doubt they will get a spell off, and if needs be jump into the bowmen units. The Peasent Bowmen and Trebuchet balance it out slightly, so I dont need to rely completely on killing things in combat.

C&C always welcome

Thanks.
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Re: Brets 2250.

Postby Scotty » Nov 1st, '09, 15:33

My suggestions would be to drop the Grail knights and Trebuchet for more KOR and Paladins.

Reduce the damsels down to just one as the game will be over in about 3-4 turns and magic not that potet agianst suc heavy armour and WD saves.

It needs to be all about gearing it to ATTACK and breaking the enemy units ASAP on the charge.

None of thsi fannying about with shooting, magic etc
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Re: Brets 2250.

Postby Jonny H » Nov 1st, '09, 17:37

Rich Burdett is the one to ask for advice, as he did very well with the Brets at tournaments.

I'm not to keen on the Hippo as it'll make your gaffa a big target screaming out 'shoot me, magic me!', I would like to see some RAF (peg Knights)
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Re: Will's Bret Blog

Postby William Benson » Nov 1st, '09, 18:05

If I were to drop the Grail Knights and one Damsel my list I think would look like this.

Bretonnian Lord on Hyppogryff (Grail Vow, Lance, Shield, Gromril Great Helm, Mantle of Damsel Elena, Virtue of Knightly Temper.)

Paladin BSB (Virtue of Duty, Lance, Shield, Warhorse.)

Paladin (Cuirass of Fortune, Virtue of the Joust, Lance, Shield, Warhorse.)

Paladin (Lance, Shield, Warhorse, Virtue of Purity, Antlers of the Great Hunt.)

Damsel (Dispell Scroll, Chalice of Malfluer.)

8 KOTR (Full Command, Warbanner.) Paladin with Cuirass goes here.

8 KOTR (Full Command.) BSB Paladin goes here.

8 KOTR (Full Command.) Other Paladin goes here.
5 Yeomen

5 Yeomen

Trebuchet

14 Peasent Bowmen

14 Peasent Bowmen

3 Pegasus Knights (Full Command.)
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Re: Will's Bret Blog

Postby Jonny H » Nov 1st, '09, 18:14

The Bret's work by spending a couple of turns positioning, then charging hitting hard and breaking the opponent units. If you fail to do this you've lost the extra strength of the lance and then you're just a heavily armoured human in a grinding match.

Grail knights break units very well, but you'll have to protect them as they will be No1 on the hit list! :D
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Re: Will's Bret Blog

Postby William Benson » Nov 9th, '09, 22:12

Bretonnian Lord (Lance, Shield, Warhorse, Cuirass of Fortune, Holy Icon, Virtue of Joust, Grail Vow.)

Paladin BSB (Virtue of Duty, Lance, Shield, Warhorse, Sword of Might.)

Paladin (Virtue of Discipline, Lance, Shield, Warhorse, Gromril Great Helm, Mantle of Duel.)

Damsel (2x Scrolls, Warhorse.)

Damsel (Scroll, Chalice of Malfluer.)

8 KOTR (Full Command, Warbanner.) Other Paladin here.

8 KE (Full Command.) Paladin BSB here.

8 KE (Full Command.) Damsel with Scrolls here.

3 Pegasus Knights (musc.)

5 Yeomen (Shields.)

5 Yeomen (Shields.)

5 Grail Knights (Full Command.)Lord here.

Trebuchet

In this list, as you prbably see the biggest changes are in the loss of the Hyppo, the Grail Knights are now 5, and no shooting apart from the Trebuchet. Yeomen now have shields as before the were vunerable to str 3 missile shots etc. Pegasus knights only have musc now. KE instead of KOTR, cheaper and that immune too pschycology is just brilliant. Gone with two Damsels again after reading some battle reports, all it takes is for a good casting wizard too take Lore of Metal or no A/S spells and i'm screwed, 3 Scrolls and 5 DD will just do the job.
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Re: Will's Bret Blog

Postby William Benson » Nov 9th, '09, 22:13

Planning on using this next week against Stewarts High Elfs. Alot of Chariots and possibly a Dragon so this may be a hard one...ASF is gonna screw me over probably.
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Re: Will's Bret Blog

Postby Scotty » Nov 9th, '09, 23:11

I feel the KE although immune for a short while at ST3 basic are poor as WS3 poor too.

KOTR are the body of your army and your characters should be here.

Lord in Grail knights isn't worth it put him in the units of Knights that need his help.
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Re: Will's Bret Blog

Postby William Benson » Nov 10th, '09, 18:11

Another attempt...*sigh*, This one including the Green Knight, just too add a bit of fun too the game. Can always just swap him out for the Bretonnian Lord on Warhorse as they cost the exact same.

Green Knight

Paladin BSB (Virtue of Duty, Sword of Might, Warhorse.)

Paladin General (Virtue of Knightly Temper, Cuirass of Fortune, Lance, Shield, Warhorse.)

Damsel (Scroll, Chalice, Warhorse,)

7 KOTR (Full Command, Warbanner.) Paladin BSB and Damsel here.

8 KE (Full Command, Errantry Banner.) Paladin General here.

9 KE (Full Command.)

3 Pegasus Knights (Musc.)

5 Yeomen (Musc, Sheilds.)

5 Yeomen (Musc, Sheilds.)

5 Grail Knights (Full Command, Banner of Defence.)

Trebuchet

10 Bowmen

Still decidng wether 1 or 2 Damsels, 10 Bowmen are there to protect Trebuchet, Damsel with KOTR for Magic Res, Green Knight will hopefully work in coherence with the Grail Knights, Banner of Defence for more surviability, all others same really.
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Re: Will's Bret Blog

Postby William Benson » Nov 17th, '09, 20:43

This list is a very experimental one. I am currently try to incorparate M@A at the moment, mainly because I am a fan of the models, but also they can be quite mean in combat for 6 points a model.

Bretonnian Lord (Grail Vow, Lance, Sheild, Warhorse, Cuirass of Fortune, Virtue of the Joust, Gauntlet of Duel, Sword of Might.)

Paladin BSB (Warhorse, Biting Blade, Echanted Shield.)

Paladin (Warhorse, Shield, Lance, Virtue of Duty.)

Paladin (Questling Vow, Virtue of Empathy, Great Weapon, Holy Icon, Echanted Shield.)

Damsel (Chalice, Scroll.)

8 KOTR (Full Command, Warbanner.) Lord in here.

7 KE (Full Command.) BSB Paladin and Damsel in here.

8 KE (Full Command, Errantry Banner.) Duty Paladin in here.

29 M@A (Banner, Musc.) Empathy Paladin in here.

3 Pegasus Knight (Full Command.)

5 Yeomen (Sheilds, Musc.)

5 Yeomen (Shields, Musc.)

4 Grail Knights (Full Command, Twilight Banner.)

Basically Knights will storm ahead whilst the M@A will drive down the middle at their might 8" march, the Grail Knights will deploy behind forest or something similar as I will be praying, storm through it first turn and the charge second. Yeomen for flanks and warmachines. Pegasus Knights for Flank and Support. All others self-explanatory really.

C&C as always is welcomed.

Cheers,
Will
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